you don't increase as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and loopholes that republicans want. create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion of savings already from stuff that happened last year. you do some stuff on defense. you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard, you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners and seem unwilling to come out. >> it will get done. it will get done. remember i told you that. >> from donny's lips. >>> let's get to some of your charts here. katty asked you what happens if we do go over the cliff. let's look at the consequences. uncertainty index is the first one. >> as i said, we don't know what happens. there's a few indicators that give a sense as to where people, business and the economy is at the moment one interesting index i came upon is called the uncertainty index, done by several economists where they attempt to incorporate the number of news stories talking about washington policies that are in